i pay a lot of income taxes. but you know, i look at that as a badge of success. you know? and i know i'm not going to -- who am i to judge someone less fortunate than me, you know, on food stamps? >> reporter: everything you say makes sense considering that you are on a mission from god. >> i'm leaning one way. >> reporter: how are you leaning? >> i'm leaning for america. >> such a divide that i think people are making it more of a personal thing -- >> scott walker recall just -- >> it's been -- >> politics the last four years. >> reporter: exhausting, right? >> it has been exhausting. >> reporter: couple points of trivia. my home state here leads the nation in most bars per capita and in most bush/obama counties, that is, people who voted for george bush in 2004 and then barack obama in 2008. they really vote the candidate, not the party. how many cows do you have total? >> 820 cows. >> reporter: wow. hello, girls. so, yes, it is easy to find conservative dairy farmers upstate, like dan brick. do you get subsidies from the government? >> yeah, very little subsidies. my th